Wind Forum Attendees Want Numbers
Maryland legislators and energy experts urged attendees at last night's wind energy forum to support taxpayer-subsidized offshore wind turbines, saying that wind energy will bring manufacturing jobs to the state.
Marylanders appreciate the feel-good arguments for offshore wind energy, but they want to see hard, cold numbers as well.
Offshore wind energy proponents faced an audience at the November 3 town hall forum that was eager to hear about the environmental benefits of installing gigantic wind turbines off Maryland’s Atlantic coast---but skeptical of the politicians’ economic promises.
The town hall forum, called “Offshore Wind Power Works for Montgomery County,” met at the Mid-County Community Recreation Center and featured a panel with legislative, labor, energy, environmental and health expertise.
The panelists presented offshore wind not only as a safer and more responsible alternative to fossil fuels, but also as a source of jobs for Marylanders.
Maryland has lost 85,000 manufacturing jobs since the 1990s, but building and installing wind turbines could bring some of those jobs back, said Mike Tidwell, founder and director of the Chesapeake Climate Action Network and author of The Ravaging Tide: The Race to Save America’s Cities.
“We’re tired of seeing us lose jobs to China,” said panelist Jim Strong, sub-district director for the United Steelworkers of Maryland. “We’re supporting this legislation because we think it will put people back to work.”
State Senator Roger Manno (D-Dist. 19) spoke to the political complexities of building a wind energy market in Maryland. “Bringing new generation online is difficult in an unregulated environment,” Manno said. He explained that in 1999, when the state deregulated utilities, those same utilities got out of the business of generating electricity and focused instead on transmission.
Another panelist, Markian Melnyk, president of the Atlantic Wind Commission, conceded that offshore wind has high up-front costs, “but it’s quickly going in the direction of becoming more efficient.” Melnyk envisions a coastal system of wind turbines that connects strong wind energy zones and reinforces the region’s transmission grid.
State Delegate Ben Kramer (D-Dist. 19) said that some of the language in the proposed Maryland Offshore Wind Energy Act, which failed in September, needs to be modified so that the taxpayer subsidies bring jobs and energy to Maryland instead of to neighboring states.
A recent poll by Gonzales Research and Marketing Strategies showed that 61.7 percent of Marylanders would be willing to pay an additional $2 per month on their utility bill if they knew that more power was derived from clean, local energy sources.
Kramer cautioned that the $2 would rise with inflation and that this arrangement would require a monthly commitment for more than 20 years. In addition, if the resident used more than 1,000 kilowatt-hours per month, that resident would pay more.
Some Marylanders would not be able to afford even a modest increase in their energy bill, and Kramer said there has been discussion about a pool to help low-income residents.
Steven Lapham of Gaithersburg challenged the panel during the Q&A to provide a side-by-side comparison of the overall costs of wind energy with those of fossil fuels, nuclear energy and more.
“That would be a valid economic analysis,” Lapham said, to widespread applause.
Others in the audience agreed that they wanted to see more financial statistics.
“I think there are some basic economic realities left out of the discussion,” said Joshua Wolf of Kemp Mill after the forum ended. “I’m very open-minded to alternative energy, but it’s got to make economic sense.”
Audience member Stan Klein asked panelists if they would consider focusing on the capacity market and subsidizing an energy storage facility instead of concentrating efforts on energy generation. Melnyk responded that focusing on the energy side of things with wind power makes sense because there is little cost once the wind turbines are paid for--after all, wind is free.
“It’s a problem of a new technology trying to make its way in an old market,” Melnyk said.
But should taxpayer money support this new technology in Maryland?
“Projects like these should be left to the private sector,” Wolf said.
Tidwell pointed to the 41 existing offshore wind farms in Europe and the ongoing construction there and in China as examples of how the United States has fallen behind.
“We have to invest,” Tidwell said. “It’s not happening fast enough by itself.”
And while the U.S. stalls, Americans pay the externalized costs, Tidwell added.
“I wish that my Pepco bill would reflect the cost of the Iraq war every month,” Tidwell said.
Jerry
12:43 pm on Friday, November 4, 2011
Wind turbines are a "feel good" technology, that, in fact, are a dead end technology. It takes 2,000 wind turbines to generate the same amount of power as a moderate sized nuclear reactor. Further, the turbines are noisy and an obvious eyesore, although locating them offshore might provide some relief from these objections. To see what a disaster wind turbines can be, one only need visit Portugal, which prides itself on generating more energy from wind than any other European nation. In fact, Portugal has destroyed its once pristine and beautiful seacoast by plastering it with ugly, noisy wind turbines. That Portugal is in a precarious financial situation is not a coincidence. In contrast, France, which fully committed to nuclear energy circa 1976. is one of the strongest economies in Continental Europe. France exports electricity to Germany, Italy, and London. If we had done the same in 1976, we certainly would have avoided our present dependence on foreign oil, and might have avoided all of our present economic difficulties. We ought to be looking to expand and replicate the successful nuclear facility at Calvert Cliffs. It is a proven technology that will promote energy independence and relief from related economic worries.
Joe
5:04 pm on Friday, November 4, 2011
It'll be interesting to see if they include the huge subsidies that are ponied up every year for nuclear and fossil fuels when they do this analysis. And take Jerry's comments with a grain of salt. He talks of Portugal's destroyed seacoast from those horrible wind turbines, yet says nothing about the damage being done every day from our unsustainable reliance on fossil fuels. I'll take a clean and efficient offshore wind farm over another coal-fired power plant or insanely expensive nuclear power plant (and we still have no idea what to do with all that nuclear waste) any day. It's a new world, Jerry. Embrace progress, don't run from it.
Steve
11:54 pm on Friday, November 4, 2011
I was present at the Wind Forum, and I think this article misses the point somewhat. Yes, several audience members expressed concern over the costs of the proposed offshore wind project. But most were very supportive, realizing that the small additional cost to add offshore wind would be less than the costs of other power sources (due to rising fossil fuel prices). The audience opinion became clear when almost everyone applauded Mr. Lapham's statement, which was asking the politicians for a more complete economic analysis precisely because it would show that offshore wind power would cost LESS than the alternatives in the long run; he was NOT questioning the economics of the offshore project, as the article implies.
Mike Galiazzo
9:09 am on Saturday, November 5, 2011
Would someone please identify all the components that make up the wind turbine and identify which components could be manufactured in Maryland? Its a simple exercise but no one has yet to present this information. This would provide accurate information on the number of potential Maryland manufacturing jobs that might result from this project.
Fred T. Teal, Jr
10:34 am on Saturday, November 5, 2011
A very recent study determined the true price of burning coal to generate electricity. This summary is from "Think Progress" from April 17, 2011 posted by Matthew Yglesias
The study was done by Dr. Paul Epstein, Director of Harvard Medical School Center for Health and the Global Environment.et. al., “Full cost accounting for the life cycle of coal”
Each stage in the life cycle of coal—extraction, transport, processing, and combustion—generates a waste stream and carries multiple hazards for health and the environment. These costs are external to the coal industry and are thus often considered “externalities.” We estimate that the life cycle effects of coal and the waste stream generated are costing the U.S. public a third to over one-half of a trillion dollars annually. Many of these so-called externalities are, moreover, cumulative. Accounting for the damages conservatively doubles to triples the price of electricity from coal per kWh generated, making wind, solar, and other forms of nonfossil fuel power generation, along with investments in efficiency and electricity conservation methods, economically competitive. We focus on Appalachia, though coal is mined in other regions of the United States and is burned throughout the world.
Coal-fired electricity is cheap for roughly the same reason that pulling a dine and dash at a fancy restaurant is a cheap way to get a nice dinner.
Steven Lapham
11:20 am on Monday, November 7, 2011
The other Steve, above, has it exactly right. (Thanks, Steve). When one compares the costs of building offshore wind turbines to other power generation options (like nuclear), then offshore wind looks very good. And let's include a FULL accounting of the economic costs (emergency room visits for asthma; environmental cleanup; disaster insurance), as recommended by the panelist Brenda Azfal of Physicians for Social Responsibility (who was not mentioned in the news story).
The French government built nuclear power plants to a standard design, and learned from each construction, and now have a record of safe, reliable plants. In the USA, private utilities built all sorts of different designs, hugely expensive, some of which resulted in disasters. Fate of nuclear waste--unsolved.
I want the "free market" when I go to buy a pair of shoes, but not when tens of millions of dollars will be spent on Public Utilities. The electric companies were happy to shed the "power generating" side of the business when they were de-regulated in Maryland. Now the ball is in the court of public policy. Let's do it right. Go wind! -- Steven Sellers Lapham
AntonFisher
12:09 pm on Monday, November 7, 2011
I echo the first comment by Jerry.